tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2246295430976433070.post790139173285139664..comments2023-11-04T17:57:14.675-06:00Comments on Asleep No More: What Jesus Said About HomosexualityDoug Evanshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05318930961031654937noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2246295430976433070.post-80916497207748231632016-10-04T08:54:33.098-06:002016-10-04T08:54:33.098-06:00Carl Lentz's "church" is part of the...Carl Lentz's "church" is part of the Hillsong "denomination," which pretty much explains his ideology. The man brags about how many homosexuals attend his goat pen.<br /><br />As for what Jesus said, I like this article:<br />http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/popp/140101<br />Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2246295430976433070.post-91403118162410318622016-10-04T07:56:05.193-06:002016-10-04T07:56:05.193-06:00Lately I find that I cringe whenever the "Chr...Lately I find that I cringe whenever the "Christian" Left and the Emergent rock stars say almost anything. As you can see from my post that Carl Lentz claims Jesus "was always talking about the heart of an individual" as if that's a good thing. Jesus clearly said "out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders"<br /><br />“The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure..." Jeremiah 17:9<br /><br />He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, But he who walks wisely will be delivered. Proverbs 28:26<br /><br />And Carl missed it - and that can only be from complete ignorance of the Biblical view of the heart, or the Biblical admonishments were purposely ignored in order to pander to the touchy-feely "Follow your heart" message that is polluting the world.<br /><br />I can only imagine the excuses that the "Christian" Left would come up with had Jesus clearly and plainly said "All forms of homosexual activity are sinful - period." but then I'm sure Satan would have picked another sin to popularizeDoug Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05318930961031654937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2246295430976433070.post-22496592415096879962016-10-04T06:05:57.004-06:002016-10-04T06:05:57.004-06:00Great points. I cringe whenever I hear that argum...Great points. I cringe whenever I hear that argument from people, especially those who should know better. I think those people like it the most because they think it gets them off the hook.<br /><br />My standard reply to those who use it: The argument that Jesus never said anything about homosexual behavior (or abortion, etc.) fails on many levels. If a church leader uses it you can be confident that he or she is ignorant and/or malicious.<br /><br />Short version: Yes, He did say something about it, but the theological Left ignores or distorts it as they do with many things about Jesus and his teachings. Note how Jesus defeats oxymoronic "same-sex marriage," same-sex parenting, transgenderism and even Darwinian evolution in one simple passage. No true follower of him should disagree on any of those topics.<br /><br />Matthew 19:4–5 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?"<br /><br />Longer version<br />---------------------------<br />Arguing from silence is a logical fallacy.<br /><br />Jesus is God and part of the Trinity that inspired all scripture.<br /><br />He supported the Old Testament law to the last letter.<br /><br />The "red letters" weren't silent on these topics in the sense that they reiterated what marriage and murder were. <br /><br />He emphasized many other important issues that these Leftist theologians completely ignore (Hell, his divinity, his exclusivity, etc.). <br /><br />He was equally "silent" on issues that these folks treat as having the utmost importance (capital punishment, war, welfare, universal health care, taxpayer-funded abortions, etc.).<br /><br />He was a devout Jew and upholder of the law, so the burden is on the pro-gay theology side: Where is that verse when Jesus condones homosexuality?<br /><br />He didn't specifically mention rape, child abuse, pedophilia, bestiality and other obvious sins though that wouldn't justify them.<br /><br />Abortion and homosexual behavior simply weren't hot topics for 1st century Jews. They actually thought children were a blessing and they had laws against homosexual behavior.<br /><br />And the Gospels never claimed to include everything He said. John specifically notes that the whole world couldn't hold it all! (John 21:25).<br /><br />And Jesus never said anything about the "sin" of criticizing homosexual behavior, so it must be OK!<br />Eternity Mattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15979906455480689798noreply@blogger.com